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PYU Week 13: Don’t Mention The War

Supposedly it says “Tampa” and has a USF logo on the other side. It has never been seen publicly, except on November 11, 2016.
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(DISCLAIMER: No one actually cares about the War on I-4. Also, this game is for entertainment purposes only. No actual money is being wagered.)

I suppose I should say something about the end of the War on I-4 rivalry series. But I said it all the year it started:

Neither school really wants a rivalry with the other. They want to be in a better conference, bigger, and more important than the other.

Jamie said it even better in 2010:

It’s a completely unhealthy, sometimes dangerous relationship, and I can’t believe how many Bulls fans get sucked into it... whatever grudge match exists between the two schools is more like a quicksand trap that both sides constantly sink into.

None of these things has changed.

I hoped the formalization of the rivalry in 2013, with a formal trophy and being in the same conference, would normalize things a bit. But it has the same petty, sniping, too-online tone it always did. Even the epic 2017 football game, which will someday consume a chapter of a future “greatest games in Florida football history” book, didn’t help. All it created was another dumb thing for the fan bases to bicker about.

And there’s just no reason for it. There have been no real on- or off-field incidents. It has no roots in long-ago fan conflicts, or one of their own students being killed in one, or bitterness about the creation and purpose of the institutions, or pre-Civil War raids. There was never even an FIU-Miami brawl. Or anything that happened in the 20th century!

There was the tackle that gruesomely injured McKenzie Milton in the 2018 game, but he and Mazzi Wilkins actually became friends over it. Milton had this to say, at a faith conference:

“It doesn’t need to be a thing anymore. It’s just cool to have a USF Bull here and a UCF Knight coming together and becoming friends. That’s the kind of stuff football can do.”

That’s... the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

Not because of the noble idea that friendship should be more important than sports rivalry. It’s the implication that USF Bulls and UCF Knights should exist in some default state of being enemies. Imagine hearing that about Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee, or Henderson State-Ouachita Baptist, or any other passionate but irrelevant local annual game.

If a guy who nearly lost a leg in the War on I-4 can publicly forgive and move past it, then whatever axe you have to grind with an opposing fan base probably isn’t worth the effort.

So I’m glad that the War On I-4 is going into timeout for at least a couple years. I’ll miss the games, but I won’t miss the “rivalry.” Maybe someday, when it’s about something other than who gets to be in what power conference, it’ll start to gain some actual meaning. And if Twitter is going to die like everyone says it is, that would be a big help.

Having said all that, let’s see how many spite bets were made on this game. I made one like I do every year, but I found a new target for it:

User Wager Final Score Units Result Payoff GT
AnthonyVito Under 61.5 points in the Mississippi State-Mississippi game Mississippi State 24-22 50.00 WIN 45.45 0
bullsonparade96 Over 46.5 points in the Tulane-Cincinnati game; Over 57.5 points in the Florida-Florida State game; Over 48.5 points in the Georgia Tech-Georgia game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 200.00 TBD 0.00 0
bullsonparade96 Ohio -7.0 points over Bowling Green State; Over 55.5 points in the Bowling Green State-Ohio game; Miami (OH) -2.5 points over Ball State (WIN,LOSS,LOSS) Ohio 38-14; Ohio 38-14; Miami (OH) 18-17 62.11 LOSS -62.11 0
bullsonparade96 South Florida +820.0 money line to beat Central Florida TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
Danj725 Texas -8.0 points over Baylor; Boise State -17.0 points over Utah State; Cincinnati -1.0 points over Tulane (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 75.00 TBD 0.00 0
Danj725 Southern Methodist -4.0 points over Memphis; Over 48.5 points in the Georgia Tech-Georgia game; Florida State -9.5 points over Florida (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 75.00 TBD 0.00 0
Danj725 Over 68.0 points in the Central Florida-South Florida game; South Florida +20.0 points over Central Florida (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 65.00 TBD 0.00 0
Danj725 Michigan +8.0 points over Ohio State; Clemson -14.0 points over South Carolina; Alabama -22.0 points over Auburn (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Utah -29.5 points over Colorado; Over 52.0 points in the Utah-Colorado game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 70.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Georgia -35.0 points over Georgia Tech; Illinois -14.0 points over Northwestern (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 60.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Coastal Carolina +13.5 points over James Madison; Over 49.0 points in the Auburn-Alabama game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Over 43.5 points in the Pittsburgh-Miami (FL) game; Over 52.0 points in the Utah-Colorado game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Florida International +20.0 points over Middle Tennessee State; Tennessee -14.0 points over Vanderbilt (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 35.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans Florida State -9.5 points over Florida; Over 68.5 points in the Central Florida-South Florida game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 25.00 TBD 0.00 0
Defdans South Florida +800.0 money line to beat Central Florida TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 Under 67.0 points in the Tulsa-Houston game; Under 64.0 points in the Oklahoma-Texas Tech game; Over 57.0 points in the Oregon-Oregon State game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 200.00 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 Texas -8.0 points over Baylor; Mississippi -2.0 points over Mississippi State (TBD,LOSS) TBD; Mississippi State 24-22 25.00 LOSS -25.00 0
E-dogg42 Miami (OH) -3.0 points over Ball State; Under 55.0 points in the Bowling Green State-Ohio game (LOSS,WIN) Miami (OH) 18-17; Ohio 38-14 25.00 LOSS -25.00 0
E-dogg42 Over 54.5 points in the Central Michigan-Eastern Michigan game; Over 52.0 points in the Toledo-Western Michigan game; Cincinnati -2.0 points over Tulane (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 23.37 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 South Florida +20.0 points over Central Florida; Under 69.5 points in the Central Florida-South Florida game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 21.00 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 Florida State -9.5 points over Florida; Coastal Carolina +13.5 points over James Madison; Ohio State -7.5 points over Michigan (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 15.00 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 Under 66.0 points in the Tennessee-Vanderbilt game; Southern California -5.5 points over Notre Dame; Wake Forest -3.5 points over Duke (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 12.00 TBD 0.00 0
E-dogg42 South Carolina +15.0 points over Clemson; Buffalo -4.0 points over Kent State; Over 49.0 points in the Auburn-Alabama game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 12.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Ohio State -8.0 points over Michigan TBD 80.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Under 67.0 points in the Tulsa-Houston game; Under 55.5 points in the Purdue-Indiana game; Under 72.0 points in the Memphis-Southern Methodist game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 70.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Over 34.5 points in the New Mexico-Colorado State game; Over 37.5 points in the Nebraska-Iowa game; Over 34.5 points in the Minnesota-Wisconsin game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 70.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Miami (OH) -2.5 points over Ball State; Ohio -7.0 points over Bowling Green State (LOSS,WIN) Miami (OH) 18-17; Ohio 38-14 70.00 LOSS -70.00 0
ElliotMoore Michigan State +740.0 money line to beat Penn State TBD 25.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore South Florida +18.0 points over Central Florida TBD 25.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Michigan State +740.0 money line to beat Penn State TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Akron +310.0 money line to beat Northern Illinois TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore New Mexico State +2650.0 money line to beat Liberty TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Georgia State +200.0 money line to beat Marshall TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
ElliotMoore Miami (FL) +215.0 money line to beat Pittsburgh TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0
GaryStephen Over 70.0 points in the Central Florida-South Florida game TBD 131.00 TBD 0.00 0
GaryStephen Georgia -35.0 points over Georgia Tech TBD 44.00 TBD 0.00 0
GaryStephen Florida +9.5 points over Florida State TBD 14.09 TBD 0.00 0
jrjs Over 49.0 points in the Georgia Tech-Georgia game; Georgia -35.0 points over Georgia Tech (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 300.00 TBD 0.00 0
jrjs Georgia Tech +35.5 points over Georgia; Under 49.5 points in the Georgia Tech-Georgia game (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 300.00 TBD 0.00 0
jrjs Under 63.5 points in the Mississippi State-Mississippi game; Under 49.5 points in the Georgia State-Marshall game (WIN,TBD) Mississippi State 24-22; TBD 100.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Michigan State +740.0 money line to beat Penn State TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Indiana +310.0 money line to beat Purdue TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Coastal Carolina +460.0 money line to beat James Madison TBD 50.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Alabama-Birmingham -17.0 points over Louisiana Tech; Central Florida -17.0 points over South Florida (TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD 25.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Over 43.5 points in the Pittsburgh-Miami (FL) game; Under 72.0 points in the Memphis-Southern Methodist game; Over 51.0 points in the New Mexico State-Liberty game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 15.00 TBD 0.00 0
ULhothot Under 63.5 points in the Arizona State-Arizona game; Under 66.5 points in the West Virginia-Oklahoma State game; Under 67.0 points in the Tulsa-Houston game (TBD,TBD,TBD) TBD; TBD; TBD 10.00 TBD 0.00 0

Results will be posted after the weekend. Most futures bets will be resolved at that time as well.